Tom Dwan Phil Hellmuth Poker After Dark

Dwan has won prize money in live poker tournaments and has appeared on NBC's National Heads-Up Poker Championship, the fourth, fifth, sixth, and seventh seasons of Poker After Dark, the third, fourth and fifth seasons of Full Tilt Poker's Million Dollar Cash Game, and the fifth and sixth seasons of GSN's High Stakes Poker.

  • Nov 15, 2017  In fact, there are few things Hellmuth dislikes less than online players so putting him next to the likes of Patrik Antonius and Tom Dwan is hilarious in itself. This Poker After Dark cash game is a minimum buy-in of $100,000 with some players putting up to $250,000 on the table. The $200/$400 blinds are just a starting point for the action to come.
  • Mar 22, 2018 The cash games on Poker After Dark started in Season 4, and Hellmuth was part of the first ever show along with Guy Laliberte, Allen Cunningham, Tom Dwan, Mike Baxter, and David ‘Viffer’ Peat. This game with a $100,000 buy-in was the first time Tom Dwan made an appearance on Poker After Dark, creating some epic moments.
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When you win the largest played pot on television before the age of 25, many would call that a peak of a career. And for Tom 'durrrr' Dwan, that was just the beginning, or a steady progression to his now more than $2.6 million in live earnings.

So next time you see Dwan at the table, which from his Hendon Mob profile, hasn’t been in a while, maybe keep an eye out so that you can add to his list of majors.

Here, PokerStars took a look at his top five hands.

And as he said in the video in response to never folding, “When I play poker, I just try to win as much as I can.”

Dwan vs. Bob Safai

On Poker After Dark, Dwan found the river-over bet before it became popular. Heads up with Bob Safai, Dwan has little chance against Safai’s top pair top kicker. Dwan stays in, calling $12,000 on the turn and then, with the reveal of the river, the opportunities seem to have faded for Dwan. Then Safai checks with over $40K in the pot.

Safai:
Dwan:

Board:

Then Dwan goes all in with nothing. Safai lets it go with the best hand to the delight of Dwan.

Dwan vs. Eli Elezra

Going against a seasoned pro is not easy, especially when you’re bluffing. Back on Poker After Dark, Dwan flops a flush draw, and calls after Eli Elezra bets $16K. The board paired again on the turn, and Elezra isn’t having it and ups his bet with his nines. Dwan than raises to $72K, a feisty move that finally gets Elezra to fold.

Elezra:
Dwan:

Board:

Dwan vs. Phil Hellmuth

Phil Hellmuth has nine-seven and Dwan has jack-ten and the advantage. Both players check the flop and Dwan gets another ten to make trip tens. Dwan bets $27,600 and Hellmuth calls, drawing dead. This time, actually having the hand works out in his favor, moving all in with over $119K. Hellmuth calls. Just like that, Dwan bests his nemesis.

Hellmuth:
Dwan:

Board:

Dwan vs. Patrik Antonius

This hand made history on Poker After Dark. Dwan has kings to Patrik Antonius’s tens. The 10 on the flop hits Antonius, and he bet $27,000 with Dwan making the call. Dwan then hits a king on the turn and goes all in over the top of an Antonius bet, raising it up to $231,350. Antonius calls with all of his chips. The two ran it twice, but Antonius couldn’t find what he needed, losing out on a $561,800 pot.

Antonius:
Dwan:

Phil

Board:
Ran twice:

Dwan vs. Phil Ivey

Dwan and Phil Ivey both hit straights, but Ivey can’t win thanks to Dwan hitting a four on the turn for the higher straight. Ivey goes all in, Dwan calls with the nuts and breaks a record with a $1,108,500 pot, the largest in televised poker history, losing Ivey over half a million in one hand.

Ivey:
Dwan:

Board:

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When Phil Hellmuth lost a heads-up match to Tom Dwan, his aces cracked by tens, his parting shot was “we’ll see where you are in 10 years buddy!” We might not know exactly where Dwan is right now, but we do know that he has been been nicely funded by Hellmuth’s repeated losses to the younger pro.

Handing over his dollars as though they were confetti, Hellmuth’s reluctance to ever believe Dwan has a hand has even led to ‘Love Story’ compilations on YouTube chronicling his losses to the young upstart…

So, where did this all begin? Let’s take a look…

In the beginning … there were pocket pairs

It’s the 2008 National Heads-Up championship, and Hellmuth looked set to send Dwan packing early on when they got it all-in, Hellmuth holding the A♦ A♠ and Dwan the 10♥ 10♣

When the flop came…

2♠ K♥ 7♠

Things were looking even better for the PokerBrat, Dwan drawing to 2 outs…

But when the turn came

2♠ K♥ 7♠ (10♠)

everything changed. Now Hellmuth’s tournament life was hagning by a thread. Only an ace or a spade (and not the king) would save him. It wasn’t to be, however, and when the river fell

2♠ K♥ 7♠ 10♠ (9♦)

It sparked a typical Hellmuth show which would last to the present day. “When you look up ‘bad beat’ in the dictionary, that’s what you’ll find,” was the commentary room’s description.

“Son, I will tell you this much, I would never have put in more than three thousand with a pair of tens,” said Hellmuth, the commentators realising what was about to happen, stating, “Oh, here we go!”

I was going to say good game, sorry for the suck-out,” replied Dwan, ”but...when you phrase it that way, it makes me not wanna!” adding “that’s why you lose money online.”

Ouch! Rarely short of a reply, Hellmuth snarled back, “ You played the hand bad, that’s the truth,” leading to a rather unseemly end to the match, Dwan offering Hellmuth to “pick your stakes heads-up, we can play right now if you want”, while Hellmuth continued his ‘horrible play’ tirade:

You’re the sucker, you just put in 20K on two tens.”
It’s standard!” shot back Dwan, “learn to play heads-up No Limit!”

Then came the classic Hellmuth line, one which he’d come to regret over the years no doubt. “ We’ll see if you’re even around in five years time,” before heading to the rails to describe his “beautiful play” to anyone who would listen.

Revenge is sweet

Be careful what you wish for, as my mother used to say on occasion, and perhaps Hellmuth took this advice to heart. As luck, or fate, would have it, Hellmuth had his chance to gain revenge on Dwan in the same event the following year. Could he overcome his nemesis?

“Do you think this is a little personal, Ollie?”, was the opening shot of the commentators. “Of course,” came his colleagues reply. “He was heartbroken and disappointed after last year, and he’s looking to exact a little revenge.”

And 2009 saw a completely different Hellmuth take to the table, an aggressive Philwho never gave Dwan a chance. Yes, he had good cards, but he played them powerfully, and ‘durrrr’ didn’t know how to respond.

Finally when Dwan thought he had spotted a glimpse of an escape, he found out that big Phil had him exactly where he wanted him…

The checked flop of J♦ 5♦ A♥ didn’t seem to beckon the start of a huge hand, Phil’s 9♠ 5♣ ahead of Dwan’s K♣ 9♣, but when the turn came

J♦ 5♦ A♥ (9♥)

things started to move. Durr bet out $4700 into the $6K pot and Phil hammed it up a bit before calling with his two pair. When the river fell…

J♦ 5♦ A♥ 9♥ (9♦)

The scene was set for a Phil Hellmuth revenge act. When Dwan bet out $12,800 the Pokerbrat didn’t pause long before setting the youngster all-in…and Dwan, unable to get away from his rivered trips, eventually called. Hellmuth clapped his hands, punched the air as he got up from the table, and enjoyed watching his new nemesis hit a cooler. It was obvious this victory meant a lot to Hellmuth!

And now it was one big hit apiece.

'Another fucking 2-outer!”

Just a few months later the two would clash again, as the players joined battle in Poker After Dark’s Railbird Heaven Cash Game 1, joined by the likes of Phil Ivey, Daniel Negreanu, Gus HansenandPatrik Antonius – a real who’s who of high-stakes cash poker.

With Hellmuth already stuck for a huge chunk of cash, he inevitably locked horns with Dwan once more…

On a flop of 4♠ 5♦ J♥ Phil – who had 7♥ 7♣ bet out $5000 into a $13,200 pot, getting rid of Ivey but seeing a call from Dwan, way behind with 6♥ 6♦.

The turn card

4♠ 5♦ J♥ (Q♥)

didn’t scare Phil, who again bet aggressively, this time $15K, once again being called by Dwan.

Being unable to shake off an opponent can lead to bad decisions later in the hand. Unable to work out what your opponent is holding – so often the case with Hellmuth versus the very unpredictable Dwan – makes life very tough. So when the river came…

4♠ 5♦ J♥ Q♥ (6♣)

Phil fell back to one of his standard plays with a middling hand – the blocking bet, a small $7000 into the $53K+ pot.

The problem with this is, of course, that Dwan knows Phil’s play very well – here he either has a small something or a big trapping hand… but Dwan now beats most of the big trapping hands, so he can bet big to make it look like a bluff!

Which he does, shoving an extra $52,000 into the middle and setting Phil a horrible problem to solve. Horrible only because Phil so badly wants to take Dwan down.

What’s the bluff?

Most reasonable-thinking players would figure Dwan has at least ‘something’ here – the 6 on the river filled a straight if Dwan had one of his little hands (23 or 78 for example) or he was always ahead with trip 4’s or 5’s, or he had hit his sixes as in the game, or even 10/J, 10/Q-type hands.

What could he have been playing to justify needing to bluff big on the river? He’d have to have been calling every street solely with the intention of making this play at the end.

“You’ve got to be fucking kidding me, the kid’s playing every pot…” started Phil’s out-loud thinking process, “ he’s going to beat me…it’s like impossible” and right there we see the problem Phil has when facing Dwan. His own ego and a lack of respect for a very clever, if unorthodox, player in Dwan.

“If Phil manages to call this bet, and sees Dwan’s hand…everyone should take cover,” came the commentator’s very astute reading of the situation!

Odds and bets and folds

“What do you have ‘durrrr’!?” said Helmuth, just as Negreanu was asked his thoughts. Negreanu’s booking arrangement with Hellmuth meant that whatever Hellmuth lost in the game he’d also have to pay to Negreanu!

Hellmuth piped up in the middle of his tanking to add, “I think you might be bluffing this time buddy,” but eventually…somehow…managed to muck his cards and save himself $100,000!

When talk turned to Dwan’s holding, and he showed a six and then stated he had hit trips, Negreanu for one didn’t believe him – “I’ll bet you 10-1 he didn’t have sixes!” screeched the laughing Canadian, and this shows how tricky Dwan’s approach really is.

“Another fucking 2-outer…if he had them,” cried Hellmuth, and another nasty feeling in Phil’s gut that Dwan needed to be taken down.

Owning Hellmuth’s soul

The ‘love story’ seemed destined to crop up at least once every year, and the next season of Poker After Dark gave us one of the biggest pots, and worst plays, of Hellmuth’s ‘anti-Dwan’ vendetta.

The 100K cash game episode was going along quietly, when suddenly the two players started to make some plays.

Hellmuth, staring down at the mediocre 9♥ 7♠ decided to re-raise Eli Elezra from $1400 up to $5400, only to see Dwan decide his 10♥ J♥ was worth a little squeeze and $16,400.

With the pot at $34,300 the flop appeared…

10♦ Q♥ 7♦

giving each of them a little something, and Elezra decided to get out of the way. Dwan’s check was quickly checked behind by Hellmuth and the turn came…

10♦ Q♥ 7♦ (10♠)

giving Dwan his three tens. After quite some thought, the younger player decided betting out $27,600 was the best way to protect and also get some value from his hand. And Hellmuth very quickly called. The pot was $89,500 and as the booth point out:

The river fell…

10♦ Q♥ 7♦ 10♠ 5♠

And you could almost hear Dwan’s brain working out how best to fleece Hellmuth for his remaining stack. What goes through a top player’s mind when planning his move in such situations?

Well, Dwan would first check to see if he was definitely ahead. What could Hellmuth have which would have checked behind on the flop and quickly called the turn AND which could beat him?

Pocket sevens for a full house would be unlikely to check behind on the flop, so that only leaves pocket queens – which Hellmuth would usually play much more aggressively pre-flop, as he did in a big hand at the 2009 WSOP Main Event.

Betting for value

Dwan was almost certainly winning, so how to extract the most value from his hand? He knows, and we now know too, that Phil will rarely give Dwan credit for a big hand, or a better hand. He also knows that Phil wants to take him down badly.

So a big river bet only needs to work a few times make him more money in the long-run than a smaller bet would – and Phil Hellmuth is the perfect guy to pay him off.

Dwan’s decision to go all-in is excellent, putting Phil in that horrible spot once again where he desperately wants to beat Dwan, but only has a weak hand, but really doesn’t want to be bluffed out of the pot!

As the commentators stated:

What an awful spot if you’re Phil Hellmuth…the one man at this table capable of firing a $120,000 bluff on the river…is the man sitting opposite you – Tom Dwan!”

“Good bet, kid, good bet!” said Hellmuth as he pondered his options, Dwan sitting poker-faced, his usual blank stare at the centre of the table –not quite an ‘Ivey’, but good enough. “This one could take a while,” was the commercial break lead-in – and it did.

Whisky in the tank

While Phil tanked, Gus Hansen joined hostess Leeann Tweeden for a quick chat, guessing Dwan’s play correctly but putting Phil on a much stronger holding than he actually had. “What would you do if you were Phil?” Tweeden asked the Dane.

First, I’d order a Scotch and drink it really fast!” came the sensible response, followed by, “and then I’d say, ‘You know what? I think I’m gonna wait for another day.”

But Hellmuth can’t wait for another day against Dwan. He never can because in his own estimation Dwan ‘won’t be around much longer’, and the kid owes Phil a lot of money from all the suck-outs – but Phil’s bad thinking leads to ruin!

“I’m gonna look like an idiot if I’m wrong, I’m gonna look like a genius if I’m right!” was big Phil’s analysis, before the fateful words, “I call!” escaped his lips.

Hellmuth

“Nice hand buddy,” said Phil as Dwan turned his wining hand over, pausing for a minute of head-shaking before adding, “Jack-ten…I knew you started with nothing.”

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Bete Noir..or bet red?

Everybody, in every sport, has a bete noir – that person or team who you simply cannot beat no matter what. You just have to accept it and move on. Don’t get involved with them and certainly don’t lose your mind over it the way Hellmuth has with Dwan over the years.

Of course, the selections above are just a few of the biggest and most important hands the two have played – there are literally thousands more, and Phil has almost certainly come out worse in their dogfight. Here’s an amusing one to finish which just goes to show that sometimes you just can’t win.

In the very first hand of the Premier League poker series, Hellmuth picks up J♥ 9♥ and sees a flop of…

10♥ A♦ A♥

When Dwan checks, Ohil bets 8k into the 14K pot on his flush draw, which Dwan only calls. We want to see the 8♥ come off here,” said the late Dave ‘Devilfish Ullliotin commentary, just as the turn comes…

10♥ A♦ A♥ (8♥)

Dwan checks again, and Hellmuth bets another 8K, making the pot 38K… which Dwan just calls. When the river falls…

10♥ A♦ A♥ 8♥ (5♦)

Phil bets his flush for 29K, only to be rocked back by Dwan’s all-in! Stunned, Hellmuth falls silent and goes into the tank…and when he emerges he finds a fold!

And it’s a great fold… As the viewers at home could see Dwan’s cards all along. He’d been dealt the A♠ 10♣ and had flopped the full house! Sometimes you just can’t win. More surprising, thugh, is that sometimes even Phil Hellmuth can reign in his ego long enough to cut his losses.

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Whether these two poker greats will ever cross swords again remains to be seen, but the years of fighting on the felt have given us all great pleasure – all except Hellmuth that is!